Heh. Oddly I don't think he'd presume with Joyce. He's got this weird respect for mothers. If he'd just think it through, he'd realize that mothers are pretty much all for the kissin'! (We've all been there, don't you know.) I'll bet he'd kiss Giles, though, to provoke a reaction! Too bad he's passed out inside his apartment when this happens. Clearly, I am enjoying myself too much...